What do you think of this genius solution? Would you want to see Mass Dampers back in F1?

So that's why Alonso was so dominant...

2005-2006 was probably my favorite F1 era... There was just something so amusing in an "underdog" racing team such as Renault back then to just clap everyone else's cheeks out of nowhere, as well as being dominated by a relatively "new" driver in the scene. (Yes he did debut in 2001 but you basically barely knew this guy existed till 2003 when he won his first race)...

This was a dumb, bad call by the FIA. This was precisely the opposite issue from the side skirts/ground effect ruling in the late 70s; side skirts could make cornering more unpredictable, increasing danger, whereas the tuned mass dampers made the cars more predictable, even as they made them faster. This should be the exact kind of innovation that they should want to foster.

It's hard to believe that such a small upgrade made that much of a difference. Tough to deny the footage of him overtaking people on turns like that.

i could not be an f1 fan after all the bs the FIA keeps pulling over and over

If only they put a fraction of their effort into making semi-trucks more efficient. it's not like they consume 100+ gallons of diesel each per day or anything...

More car control means more safety. Why ban it?

This idea was not stolen from a building. This is understanding physics. The gentleman who designed and built this is Dr. Rob Tuluie an unrivaled chassis engineer and astrophysicist. Who also happens to be a friend of mine. This is a physics principle at its base and was applied as needed.

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So FIA basically banned it because other constructors couldn't perfectly copy it from Renault's LoL

Bullshit regulations...

I knew Alonso wasnt the fastests driver when he won the world championship. Just like Vettel and Hamilton. F1 is a scam

Thank you for the honorable mention about 101, hahaha.

Renault should have left F1 after that decision. And F1 would have died, like it should.

If it wasn't dangerous it should have stayed, even made it safer right? Regulations shouldn't remove things randomly because it benefits some more then others. All the other teams could copy the tech, no?

simple question here but how did they found out about this system?

FIA: Makes new regulations that make cars less stable F1 team: Makes device to make the car more stable FIA: 😯

Why was it banned? Why didn't they just put the tech in f1

Presumably the complaint was initiated by Ferrari.

the original Citroen 2cv had tuned mass dampers- because it was a car designed for peasant farmers and conventional dampers were to bourgeois

Does the driver know THE *SECRET* TRICK(s) on the car they drive?

Just drive a 300mph hyper car. F1 are so yesterday. Men in go karts.

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It would be interesting to know what actually motivates the FAA to ban stuff like this.

This is why I can’t get behind f1... they kill innovation. The very thing that makes things better. That’s like an oxymoron.

Why do they ban good things? It doesn't make sense! I mean if it caused accidents then, yes ban it. But if it improves racing let it be!

The Citroen 2cv had been using this system since 1948 It's funny how old ideas come around again 😎

wonder how F1 would look if nothing was ever banned. probably very expensive, but imagine the technological marvel it would have given birth to.

Id love to see f1 un ban everything just to see how far teams go

FIA: making the car more difficult and dangerous to drive Renault: fixes it, making it safer for the driver FIA: you weren’t supposed to do that

The mass doesn't move the other way, it technically just resists movement until it overcomes inertia

fkin FIA killing good ideas

The damper sure was good, but that's not what won Alonso the 2005 title, it was the shitty reliability of that years McLaren, and to counter that the overall consistency of the Renault car.

F1 is so retarded Why do they feel the need to stop every cool innovation

A good presentation ruined by too many adverts and bullshit self promos.. Thumbs down and good bye

They should be making a new sport with no restrictions for technological advancement and call it Formula ZERO

Renault: FIA: Consistency? Safety? We dont want any of that here!

"Dominated"... The McLaren was faster, but the realiability made the more constant Renault a winner. Not only that, the FIA permitted this system, but when they wanted Michael Schumacher to win his last World Title, they banned it during mid-season. Cannot remember a mid-season ban since air fans in the back of the car to suck the air under it in the 80s... That's why sometimes the FIA sucks. The double diffuser, the blown diffuser, active suspension, active electronics like TCS... all of that was banned after the end of the season.

We invented a new technology that helps us go faster. F1 ban it.

Im going to say now, just like with ads and percentages or whatever, they will become irrelevant but you want growth in your channel. In short this video will feel like a specific time than timeless. Also what counts as a view?

So simple it's genius.

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"Movable aerodynamic device" is absurd. Just ban it under the guise of keeping costs down or something.

So without that damper he would have no titles. It’s all about the car.

The sheer number of "F1 ___________ So Good It Was Banned" videos. You'd think they'd just stop bothering to hold races.

in one min 39 is the driver flipping someone off?

F1 should allow teams 1-2 seasons of advantage an item then they have to open source it for next season. Not only eliminates advantages kinda but lets the whole sport grow as a whole.

imagine the guy who made the decision to outlaw this genius invention and then going home to tell his wife about his daily accomplishment

Thanks bro good job, now i Know 👍

Nope

F1 would be a lot more enjoyable without restrictions

By banning some innovations, F1 discourages innovation rather than encouraging it. What are the odds that if this was a British team and British driver, they would allow it. F1 has always been plagued by politics and corruption and I am sure to some degree it still is. Great video and explanation 👍

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Innovating a brand new idea is the greatest thing in engineering but stealing an idea from a different branch of engineering is a close second.

you almost got It right all skyscrapers have mass damper Taipei 101 just has It visible and the area of tire on the ground does not change friction only the downforce and the coalition of friction of the tier

Clipboard warriors at it again hindering progress in the name of fairness.

they had ca. 150 hp more in engine..this is smoke&mirror..they were cheating so hard

Alonso is a hypocrite, he had the best car every year he won the championship, yet talks shit about Hamilton and Vettel only winning because of their car lol

Try driving a new truck, towing an 83 Cadillac, after making your own towing setup in a motel parking lot, from Wisconson, in holliday traffic, to the coast of N.C. , in ice , and snow ,all the way to Raliegh, with the wife and kids. F1, with a whole team of people around you, in nice weather....ok.

"To counteract the swaying of Alonso"

This is why i stick to street racing and no prep drag racing

Great video!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍

Id almost bet it was one engineer on the team that thought of this himself.

I had this idea when i was like. 6. Then my dad said it was stupid and that was that.

Why does f1 ban innovation all the time?

F1 is bullshit, every improvement or innovation just gets banned the next year

Great video. Just a little clarification. Mass dumper wasnt' banned for 2007 but in 2006 with 5 races remaining. Alonso had to run 5 races without it in a car designed to have the mass dumper. In my view that was a flagrant and unfair attempt by FIA and Ferrari (that by that time had a lot of influence in FIA's decisions) to give the championship to a retiring Schumacher.

Sounds like it should be a useful innovation for most vehicles with suspension. Do you know if it has been picked up and applied in any other racing series, or road vehicles? I could envisage it would be really useful in an off road vehicle

This is like a real life physics glitch

super brilliant invention . now alonso is returning to f1, but without these devices on his disposal ...

F1 rules are stupid

FIA was full of shait: it was not ’a movable aerodynamic device’. Politics. No need to copy ideas from Taipei, all trained engineers come up with these kind of ideas. Even I contemplated this kind of device for F1’s just by watching the races. The oscillation of the front was obvious. (I’m an electronics engineer; stability is of great concern in our field)

85% are probably 1 0r 2 time viewers if you are lucked

I love automotive engineering

Your explanation and animation of the dampening is wrong. 2:48 You say and show the weight moves in the opposite direction of the building. But the weight moves IN the direction of the building, so the building has to do so less. Look at the video of practical engineering for a prove. It makes sense, if you think about the leg movement on a swing on a playground.

FIA bans fucking everything. Honestly whats the point

It's so funny any device getting around rules on any teams are Genius (Mass Damper, DAS) and should not be banned, except for Ferrari, everyone jumping up and shouting.

Lewis Hamilton's head forms a movable aerodynamic device, it should be banned and removed.

Why FIA ban this technology? Isn’t F1 about the best n the fastest? If they keep banning tech F1 is no longer improving. It’s has hit a plateau

- it is game - it is war - it is some competition _ whom they are to say to them what you have what not - except some fair judge shall be worried about "they have same strength power force" _ I would be wanted to say to them so much cc engine - what else I have is my business not yours and then I want not be participate who care about yours _ some bunch of idiots whom think everyone must be on same level stupid _ there is not way to participate in such competition because is only meant for stupid's _ head case in world all times among everything - invent something to reach your target before anyone _ head case in my case whom one is best upon best to be called mom and you can calling your girl a women - ok in my case all of them failed to the trash reasons is not so much important

Interesting Kimi won once it was banned.

All this tech that they ban, i find silly to do so. The whole point is to be faster. If you can build a better car, whats the problem. Isnt that part of the competition?

How exactly was Renault dominant? 🤔

Has anyone ever developed a car that incorporates all of these banned technologies into one track weapon. Not to compete, just to see what happens

They only banned it because they were beating F(ERRARI).I.A.

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Nobody: FIA: It's too good! Banned!

renault was almost never dominant even in 06 tires pull them through 05 mclrn was faster and 06 ferarri on michles god knows what would be

The driver's head is a movable aerodynamic device. . .

The idea of Mr Lagiewka patented

This was an awesome explanation. Thank you!!! Just subscribed.😁

The mass actually resists the motion due to its inertia, it doesn't initially move in the opposite direction it just appears to due to relative motion

Freak n genius. Why would the sanctioning body be against something safer?

I hate these stupid regulations, they ruin F1..

This should absolutely be a standard part because it makes the car safer

This is not from some building, this was copied from the 2 CV lol!

Time to time FIA trying to stop innovation to push another innovation to invent

Damm! This is Amazing! I imagine a more modern version of this technology with gyroscopic sensors controlling the vibration angles, because the force is not 100% up/down In the curves. If the force can be predicted seconds in advance, the air pressure inside the mechanism can be adjusted to improve dampening.

A few years ago Ford was having problems with F-150 side mirrors breaking off their future model test vehicles at high speed. We developed a tuned mass damper to solve the problem. Unfortunately, it never went into the final production vehicles.