JET Dragsters: The Insane 320MPH Dragsters
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This is a Jet-Powered Dragster, boasting more than 20 thousand horsepower per tonne and is one of the fastest accelerating cars on the planet.
It’s not the only dragster to use jet power though, there have been things like rocket-semi trucks, school buses and record-breaking funny cars.
But how do they work? And can they compete with the current crop of lightning-fast dragsters? All that, coming up.
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Jet dragsters have been around since the 1960s when racers began purchasing military-surplus jet engines and fitting them to custom dragster chassis’. Initially, they ran them at Bonneville Salt Flats before running them in full NHRA competitions and demolishing the piston-engined cars.
However, the insane speed and fire-risks meant the NHRA banned them. Even now, jet-cars are only run as ‘exhibition cars’ and cannot compete against each other. Whilst this is a shame, we can speculate at how they stack up against current piston-engined cars.
This is the Fireforce 5, a specialised jet-dragster that completes the quarter-mile in just over 5 seconds and can hit well over 300mph. It uses a jet-engine from a helicopter and is one of the quickest jet-cars ever made.
So why would you take a technology that is normally used to propel aircraft and fit it to a race car? Essentially it’s another take on the process of releasing energy from fuel and using it to go really fast.
But for Drag Racing it's a solution that allows them to create immense power without the drawbacks that we have spoken about in previous videos, things like exploding engines, snapping chassis’ in half and ripping tyres clean off the rim.
Not to mention that they produce incredible thrust for their weight, explaining why they are so popular for propelling aircraft.
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EyesOfByes
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The not yet revealed railgun dragster 😏
Jef Damen
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@Harman P Johnson Take a chell pell mate, nice abundance of class...lol
Jef Damen
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Piston dragsters for the win. So brutal. But jets are nice too. So is your content, u are a great teacher.
Matt
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@scott c I think the concord's louvres were to slow supersonic airflow to subsonic before reaching the compressor; the SR-71 had something like this as well for it's ramjets.
Andy Sedgley
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@scott c Oops! Apologies! I direct my question to the other Scott!
Jan Holub
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How about the cost per run? Top Fuel dragster is ca $10k per run, as you have to rebuild the whole engine, clutch, tyres and basically the whole car. Jet engines are rated Time Before Overhaul (TBO) up to 40.000 hours. So you can race all day long, just top up the fuel and check the tyres, is that right? Cost per run should be way less.
sdfs sds
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Damonii
3 päivää sitten
What about rocket cars in competitive racing? Were they ever a viable option? If a dramatic engine change was not breaking the rules (internal combustion to jet) I would think the next evolution would be closed system rocket. Solve the issue of of variable trust based on speed/oxidizer flow rate: constant thrust
Al GFourty
6 päivää sitten
On this subject I know you've brushed upon drag bikes before, but how about Eric Teboul's current ROCKET POWERED drag bike or the now long-since retired rocket cars of Sammy Miller and Kitty O'Neil. Once saw Sammy Miller do a pass when I was young and I have never experienced anything like it! As quick as Fireforce V is, Sammy did the quarter mile in three and a half seconds, I for one would be interested to know how that was even possible.
Gee
10 päivää sitten
Well now I know where rocket league got it’s inspiration.
S JJ
11 päivää sitten
This..... This is the most American thing america ever invented
Áron Barta
11 päivää sitten
Couldn’t engineers design a strong enough brake system that holds the dragster in place until the lights go out, even at full power? Would it be too heavy? Because then the jet engine would have enough time to get to full power
ninjaswordtothehead
13 päivää sitten
I wanna built the first JATO-assisted drag bicycle.
Arqaan plays
15 päivää sitten
So you mean rocket league cars
RazzBerry
15 päivää sitten
if they doubled or tripled the length of the dragstrip would the jet powered car begin to outperform the other cars? or would that not be feasible, i don’t know too much about drag racing.
TTV_Switcher260
16 päivää sitten
COCHETRUCO😎😎😎😎
Florian Walter
18 päivää sitten
So why not doint the obvious? Hybrid Dragster with piston engine plus turbine, that starts after 100 meters?
Rico's Roughnecks
18 päivää sitten
I remember watching them when they were allowed to compete at raceway park in nj
Rohit Burra
18 päivää sitten
People did this bc their crazy or bored
Friday Californiaa
19 päivää sitten
Some things are wrong here : you don't use an helicopter engine to get thrust from it. Turboshafts are only meant to give torque on an axle. Turbojets produce real thrust, but are used only in aircraft.
Drino Zhao
19 päivää sitten
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Erika
21 päivä sitten
"So why would you take a technology that is normally used to propell aircraft and fit it to a race car? Because you can, thats why haha
K SP
24 päivää sitten
Fuel economy is measured in oil fields per mile
Casey Carlile
24 päivää sitten
Problem solved: make a turbine/diesel hybrid 👌 You get the low end diesel torque with the high end turbine power! It’s a crazy idea but I’m sure the Germans could do it! 😊 considering they basically invented everything that we now take for granted ❤️❤️
Icrem Ibor
25 päivää sitten
Me: *draws a car that a topbspeed of 380 mph*
A S
25 päivää sitten
Bob Lazar sent me.
Narei Mooncatt
26 päivää sitten
I have been fortunate enough to be a trackside photographer at a couple of jet car events. To be standing 20 feet or less from dueling afterburner pops feels like getting kicked in the chest by an entire herd of horses. When the tree goes green and they take off, it's like the fires of hell itself opened up and a thousand screaming banshees are coming for you (and that's with ear protection). The cars are half way down the track before you actually feel the thrust, which is like being sand blasted with a blowtorch as it blows the dust and debris back at you. A lot of people make fun of them because "top fuel is faster." True, but these beasts are exciting in their own right.
Mike Jones
26 päivää sitten
"Why would you take tech. designed to propel an aircraft and fit it to a race car?" Because you can, and it kicks ass!
Stan Kakol
26 päivää sitten
With all respect, YAWN!! Who cares about 320 mph? Piston powered dragsters dominate the jets in a quarter mile.
Psychlops 924
27 päivää sitten
Is the NHRA paying you yet? Seriously, these videos are way better and more educational than the stuff the NHRA puts out for their broadcasts. I was already a drag racing fan, but these videos have made me even more excited for the Gatornationals 😁
winged
28 päivää sitten
2:00 if you play KSP you already know that.
Robert Anderson
28 päivää sitten
5 seconds? Sorry. Too slow. When they hit 335mph in 3.5seconds... the experience of the noise alone is worth the top fuel. Jets are still fun to watch but not nearly as much as top fuel
2Jz god 2006
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Tire with no rim? Like if u get it
SILENT FTW
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Jet dragsters dont really fascinate me as much. Its cool but ehhh, what's interesting is that top fuel dragsters produce that much stress on the engine, that the team practically needs to rebuild it after every run... I mean hey they do have thousands of ponies with 1 gear that has extreme torque. Makes sense to me
Qgal5kap123
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It would be interesting to see the results of a high power turbojet like the J79 (LM1500) coupled to a hydraulic transmission.
Qgal5kap123
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This was a good and accurate description of what's happening here.
Cris P. Bacon
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I'm gonna put a jet-engine into my wheelchair
Keisuke Takahasi
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i would like to see dragsters reach a certain top speed (for example 1000kmh) rather than just the old 1/4 mile thing tbh
Abhilash Patel
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Are you sure about 30-40% efficient?
Alex
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Has anyone made an electric dragster yet?
Procat Procat
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Are there any competitive electric drag cars yet? Electric will eventually destroy piston engined drag cars because the torque is available from low rpm
Tom Snow
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just curious top fuel or jet dragsters are better? in terms of engineering then in terms of the environment? not to cause a climate question just curious about the advancement of motor sports
Tribe of the Iron Flame
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3:48 Do you want to have the worst sunburn you've ever felt? Because that's how you get the worst sunburn you've ever felt. Also if your AWS certified, that's _probably_ a pretty good way to lose that certification by not following the minimum safety regulations
Who you looking at? abs
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Look, there is a Difference between A Turboshaft and a Turbojet, Turbojets are used in Fighter Jets and they use the Incredibly Fast and High Speed Exhaust Gases to Propel the Aircraft, Turboshafts on the other hand use the The Rotation of the Core (so the Turbine and Compressor) to turn the Gearbox that Turns the Wheels. Turboshaft Engines Provide Very Little Thrust as the Way they are intended to be used is by connecting it to a Gearbox (Or whatever you need it to power). They Do Operate Very similarly, Because they are both Jet Turbine Engines, both Work on the Same Principle.
carel haasbroek
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I think they can get more thrust if they use higher bypass engines.
Michał Michał
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They need afterburner
Prison Mike
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Ayee Bandimere nice I was there July 4th!
Marcus Hutchison
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2:30 He crashed, but he still won
Leynad Jee
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So not the right choice as a daily I guess.
castlecatcher
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plz do one on rocket dragsters
saulės cukrus
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Please make video about tractor pull race. Where they have multiple engines
etc arief
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Thrust SSC and Bloodhound : finally , a worthy opponent
Jonathan Moore
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Only men can handle these beasts. Lookin at you Cletus McBitchface
Max Ford
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Why..... ?!? .....because. ...that's why.
Matt South
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Someone should put a nozzle on the jet similar to a jet ski, so the driver can divert the thrust up and hold it at full throttle while staging, then to launch just swivel the nozzle. Kind of like a harrier in reverse.
Domino cracker
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Wow the new season of rocket league looking great
Emily van Möslfak
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You are mentioning that the turbines come from helicopters and then explain how plane turbines work. This one 0:46 actually is from a helicopter and it doesn't use the thrust of the exhaust to push itself forward, but the exhaust is directed on a second set of turbine wheels wich turn a shaft that connects with the wheels - or before with the helicopter's rotors.
Rashawn GT
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Don't let Richard Hamond near the jet car.
〖Beginner〗Waffles
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4:52 why did that happen? the wheel just slipped while the other one just kept on going
Mr X
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seance a jet car is classed an exhibition only the NHRA will only allow them to run 320.99 mph. if they wanted to run faster all they need to do is open the fuel regulator and pay the fine for going faster then allowed
Top GIFs With Sound
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hp and torque are the wrong measurements when it has thrust
Lemiwinks
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the reason why i cant really get behind jet dragsters is that theres very minimal skill in driving and setup. no need to account for track condition nor the driver doesnt have much to do other than steer
Daniel Squires
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These video's are amazing for learning really enjoy them, what's the dance track in the background around 6min.30?
Mig Y
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Next video: rocket propelled dragsters. 👌
Shane Mackay
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5 seconds is slow for foreforce 5 😂😂😂 defo beem in to the 3seconds mark
Shane Mackay
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@Neil Marks you maybe be right and i did some research and you are correct if feels fast as it goes past 🤣🤣
Neil Marks
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Not true. No jet car has ever run below 5 seconds over the quarter mile in the UK. You may be thinking of Sammy Miller’s rocket car from the 80’s
TheCharillz23
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Jet cars cant top 11000hp nitro top fuel monsters shaking the earth as they rip to 126mph in 60ft.. love them v8 monsters
Jacob Dinsmore
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Always LOVE seeing the rocket trucks burning down the billboard to top off night under fire at Summit Raceway. First place I ever saw NHRA and Rocket dragsters. Absolutely incredible sight and sound
kurias joy
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Folk
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Also: The TFD should adopt "fly" by wire to control torque
Folk
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Next: Electric Dragsters
Toby Cook
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Matin Hill, the creator of Fireforce at Santa Pod, created his first Jet powered car was because he got fed up of making high HP V8s as they're so complicated: Piston timings, etc.
Michael Taylor
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A lot of persuasive argument for jet cars
Michael Taylor
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No engine rebuilds necessary
Michael Taylor
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Bring back jet dragsters
Robert Kerr
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Helicopters don't use jet engines. Jet engines produce thrust, not horsepower.
mur B
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electric motors off the line, the jet to eff you up
Viper
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*stuffs J79 into a car*
Jorge
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Wouldn't it be better to use the engine as a turboshaft to drive the wheels? If you want the best thrust to weight with absolutely no regard about efficiency use a solid rocket
constantinos schinas
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they could max out the jet engine and hold the cars using wires at start. then suddenly release them on launch.
Ozgur Ozusen
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Not a gtr :D
Supreme Lobster
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Use electric motors for the first half of the run, and jet engines for the second half, and you are a winner.
GCF Undefined
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Why put an aircraft jet engine onto a a chassis with four wheels? --- why give road-going cars a potential top speed of 400kph, even though it will never come close to that speed, outside of a racetrack? my guess is for the novelty of doing it
Kevin Guthrie
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They use wide hose clamps on top fuel dragster's for motor mounts
Chance Haugland
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... What if you piped it through a torque converter? I should probably clarify that I'm talking about turboshafts, not turbojets/turbofans/(sc)ramjets. Turboshafts are designed to primarily produce rotational torque instead of thrust. Soooo what would happen if we used a torque converter to transfer that torque to the wheels?
lingSpeed
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Nice video! 1:12 Thats not a heli engine, it could have been pulled from some prototype heli, but i's commercial use was for small jets (civil and military). Heli engines are designed to extract power through turbine shaft, so it would be not efficient to use just exhaust thrust. At 0:47 thou the dragster is probably using a gas turbine (jet) to power the wheels, that would be good use of heli engine. Also a bit disappointed no mention was given to fundamental difference between Jets and ICE, similar to the one between electric motor vs ICE. Jets and electric engines (before other technical limits) produce constant Torque or Thrust, while ICE drivetrain produces constant Power. It's often no good at all to even try rating jets power, as that depends on airspeed. For example we can have a jet use maximum thrust at takeoff but still produce less power than it will then use to cruise. But tbh i've not seen one automotive channel explain correctly what power actually is. Probably because of trying desperately not to alienate the audience... It really seems like people will get to understand how cars work only after "car" as a concept dies.
D D
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when did jet cars ever beat the best piston dragsters NHRA shortened the 1/4 mile strip to 1000 feet as the piston drag cars were getting too fast but even at 1/4 mile the top piston dragsters have been going under 4 seconds for years another sensationalistic video on youtube that has wrong info
TheThirdMan
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Jet fuel is a hell of a lot cheaper than nitro. Just saying.
An idiot in a racing car
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Why are the rear tires still so large and thick? To hold the car before the start?
Don Lee
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jet dragsters accelerate faster and faster as you speed up. top fuel dragsters accelerate immediately but then taper very quickly. For 1/4 mile, Top Fuel dragster For 1 mile, jet dragster.
bucketslash11
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remember when Hammond drove one
D.B.
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It’s f wild to think some dude woke up one day and thought “let’s try a jet engine”!
Leon Schumann
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4:10 DHL sponsoring a dragster: we deliver extremely fast ... but 2 times out of 10 you package will be toast
Hunhow
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Wait, isnt the burning jet fuel carcinogenic?
Alain Mare
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What is exactly the purpose of these ridiculous machines. Beat records or to made the much polluting machine able to kill their pilots ? Difficult to understand for a European citizen.
MaioMango
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Halo mateo
Mateloo
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Dislike
Beau ! Bear
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A jet drag car will never match the thrill of a nitro monster.
Rocketplane
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Couple of small nitpicks: the compression due to speed for a jet engine doesn't really matter until you're supersonic. The compressor does essentially all the work no matter what speed the dragster is going. Also, jet engines can be very efficient, but the kind used in fighters and drag cars isn't because efficiency comes at the expense of maximum thrust. Also, unless the jet engine is driving the wheels, "power" means nothing for a jet engine. (Also, it would be more technically correct to say that the car is "turbine powered" if the wheels are driven.) The effective power of the jet engine is the thrust produced times the speed of the car. When you look at the fact the car does better on the back half of the course from this perspective, it's small wonder. Your power effectively increases linearly with speed.
MartyParty!
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Vanishing point! Rocket car kills the jet car in a 1/4 mile research it 👍👍👍
Dan4President
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When mpg means metres per gallon
Edwin Sandborg
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I did the calculations and only got 433 kg of downforce with an angle of 10 degrees. Dunno what I did wrong. Sin is O/H, H is 2494 kg of thrust, then 2494*sin(10) is 433 kg.
J Cole
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Demolishes piston driven cars with a 5 sec 1/4 mile *Top fuel laughs in sub 4s* >U can't just make things up, that's not how this works
Starm Wars
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i saw a jet dragster incinerate a pt cruiser
Kyle
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Any more plans for the sim channel? I went back to find the old mx5 lap challenge and couldnt see it anywhere
filster
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I think electric dragsters are going to be so much better. Too much smoke, noise and pounding in my chest for me.