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Look at these strange vapour trails coming off the rear wing of these F1 cars. They are only visible in certain conditions but are present whenever the car is at speed. It’s the effect that enables flies to fly, and the Concorde to reach such high speeds.
They are called Vortices, and are a natural bi-product of an F1 car’s wings. They produce a lot of drag and ultimately slow the cars down.
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So how do you create Vortices?
This is actually easier to explain with a plane wing. As you probably know, a plane wing creates lift by using a low pressure area above the wing - this then literally sucks the plane upwards.
You can see the low pressure area here, where the cloud-like vapour is above the wing. You’re only able to see this in certain conditions, but we will get to that.
But the interesting thing is that at the edges, this creates a strange effect. The air here is able to spill around the edges of the wing, and so, the air from below the wing is sucked around the side by the lower pressure air.
This creates a tumbling, turning effect - starting a spiral of air that creates a mini-tornado, that trails off the wing. This is what we call a vortex.
For planes the vortices are a bad thing, they produce a lot of drag - but are often unavoidable as they are a natural bi-product of having a wing - and you need those.
They are also naturally created on an F1 car. Back in the 80s and 90s, you could see them trailing off the rear wing, sometimes up to a metre long. The rear wing produces about 30% of the drag of an F1 car, and this is part of the reason.
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00:00 Vortex - An Aerodynamic Accident
00:39 How Vortices Are Created
01:33 How Vortices Affect F1 Cars
02:00 F1 Engineers - The Last Airbenders
02:45 Deliberate Vortices
03:44 Rear Wing Vortices
04:30 Genius Aero Trickery
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06:40 Do Vortices Make a Difference?
06:40 Why Can Only See Them In Certain Conditions?

Kommentteja 

  1. Driver61

    Driver61

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Go check out Fuel For Fans' Black Friday Sale with the link in the description! Would love to hear what you ordered! Did you know these vortices were this important? It's an amazing thing to see! If you want to see more, go watch the 2020 Turkish GP again!

    • forandon behalfof

      forandon behalfof

      22 päivää sitten

      @Gabriel Saloma Velázquez - Temperature, humidity and air pressure are all related and together determine "dew point".

    • forandon behalfof

      forandon behalfof

      22 päivää sitten

      AND don't forget to mention that people might like to investigate Bernoulli's equation/theory/principle...

    • forandon behalfof

      forandon behalfof

      22 päivää sitten

      @DerNerd - Concorde commercial flights stopped in 2003 whereas, ironically; the Tupolev Tu--144 (basically a Soviet Concorde knock-off) stopped flying in 1999.

    • forandon behalfof

      forandon behalfof

      22 päivää sitten

      @Gabriel Saloma Velázquez - It's "DEW" BTW. And don't forget Bernoulli's theory/equation/principle.

    • forandon behalfof

      forandon behalfof

      22 päivää sitten

      Errr,,,,They're actually called "contrails". OR "wing contrails" OR EVEN "aeroplane wing contrails". And they've been known about for many years before Concorde was just a pipe dream. And all they are is a by-product of lift created by the wing. AND these "vortices" are irrelevant. What's important is the LIFT created by the wing. GO LEARN THE FACTS

  2. the north mh5

    the north mh5

    2 päivää sitten

    f1 wings: produce 30% of the car's drag the GoPro attached to the car: Is that a challenge?

  3. Fadi Sayed

    Fadi Sayed

    4 päivää sitten

    👍

  4. ScubaJoe YT

    ScubaJoe YT

    5 päivää sitten

    Of companies don’t stop simplifying logos I’m killing someone

  5. Lanu790

    Lanu790

    6 päivää sitten

    wtf, misconception about vortex...

  6. DeathRacer0888

    DeathRacer0888

    11 päivää sitten

    Blah blah blah, make the racing even and equal ffs. HondaMclarenCivicPeugeot. Or is it MercedesPorscheFordFiat Bullshit teams joining together just to try and beat the silver arrows. Just put the same motor in all cars, and leave the handling and downforce to the team to tweak. Online racing is getting more exciting than the same shit day in day out. Never saw Hamilton in the orange or pink cars? I Spose he earnt his spot in the silver arrow and basically developed that car around him, and is used to fisting the competition on his way by. We live in the new world, yet no one wants to race equal?

  7. Kyle Gray

    Kyle Gray

    11 päivää sitten

    The wacky sex epidemiologically accept because salad opportunely drag about a irate seat. encouraging, secret curtain

  8. michael lavery

    michael lavery

    15 päivää sitten

    I knew aeroplanes needed wings before I watched this.

    • BlueHoliness

      BlueHoliness

      15 päivää sitten

      Bro you are *Ascended*

  9. Winken

    Winken

    17 päivää sitten

    Chemtrailing F1 cars? Now I've seen it all!

  10. user

    user

    17 päivää sitten

    am I the only idiot who read from a crocodile?

  11. Manish Jha

    Manish Jha

    20 päivää sitten

    If only I would have a teacher like Scott to explain the concepts in high school. Should have studied cornering of an F1 instead bending of cyclist....Amazing video!! keep them coming. Have a question though..Wouldn't this vortex affect the car behind me in slipstream, I mean negatively ?

  12. baconmakinmayor

    baconmakinmayor

    20 päivää sitten

    they are chem trails. wake up sheeple. f1 drivers are killing millions of people daily

  13. LPKelly380

    LPKelly380

    22 päivää sitten

    Contrails are not an “aero trick”. Christ

  14. Almerinda Romeira

    Almerinda Romeira

    22 päivää sitten

    Still, no connection to Concorde. In fact Concorde and delta wings work slightly differently from other planes in the sence they need vortices on the upper surface to create lift instead of regular non turbulent flow. So while F1 is trying to cancel them out, Concorde needed them to fly

  15. forandon behalfof

    forandon behalfof

    22 päivää sitten

    Errr,,,,They're actually called "contrails". OR "wing contrails" OR EVEN "aeroplane wing contrails". And they've been known about for many years before Concorde was just a pipe dream. And all they are is a by-product of lift created by the wing. AND these "vortices" are irrelevant. What's important is the LIFT created by the wing. GO LEARN THE FACTS

  16. Joshua Rosen

    Joshua Rosen

    22 päivää sitten

    I had never bothered to think about exactly what causes vortices. Your explanation was clear and logical. Since we are talking about fluid dynamics, I have to wonder where anything clear and logical is actually correct but I like your explanation and I'll assume it's correct for the time being.

  17. The Edge

    The Edge

    Uukausi sitten

    Be alot easier, understanding areo if we could See Air lmao

  18. Βαγγέλης Γιαννόπουλος

    Βαγγέλης Γιαννόπουλος

    Uukausi sitten

    0:11 I bet the mosquito got so mad about you calling it a fly, that it didn't let you sleep for a week

  19. MrSchmekker

    MrSchmekker

    Uukausi sitten

    From 2021 Ground effect will be permitted again

    • MrSchmekker

      MrSchmekker

      Uukausi sitten

      2022

  20. Muhammad Ahmar

    Muhammad Ahmar

    Uukausi sitten

    Air S🅱️IN

  21. Zemari5

    Zemari5

    Uukausi sitten

    I am convinced that f1 cars are more upside down airplane than car at this point

  22. Seven Five

    Seven Five

    Uukausi sitten

    There is no such thing as suction.

  23. chris .1

    chris .1

    Uukausi sitten

    Could there be a certain way to use drag for an advantage? If done, point me to a video. -What about a tuned diffuser or channelled duct technology that could reroute the drag for an advantage. So in a way self sufficient that the windspeed is siphoning up the drag. If that rambling was dumb as can be sorry!!!

  24. Marack Obama

    Marack Obama

    Uukausi sitten

    "Copied from Concorde" but no mention about Concorde at all :|

  25. Procat Procat

    Procat Procat

    Uukausi sitten

    None of this aero design work benefits close racing and much of it is actually detrimental. The more they ban it, the better F1 will become. Can't wait for the 2022 regs!

  26. Gillian Sheppard

    Gillian Sheppard

    Uukausi sitten

    the 3D footage where so good/informative ! i like it

  27. AK 7563

    AK 7563

    Uukausi sitten

    Did he named a section "the last air bender"?

  28. WTS Eracing

    WTS Eracing

    Uukausi sitten

    Wait .. i never realize this

  29. M.Rahman

    M.Rahman

    Uukausi sitten

    Everybody gangsta until F1 copies from the B737 Max

  30. dezpotizmOFheaven

    dezpotizmOFheaven

    Uukausi sitten

    Only making the cars fast when they are not in "traffic"...

  31. Mrlopkeson

    Mrlopkeson

    2 kuukautta sitten

    You sound like you have down

  32. Nascar Drawings

    Nascar Drawings

    2 kuukautta sitten

    What he is actually showing is the airplanes dumping fuel, not the vertices created by the wings, which are on the outer wing tip

  33. beachcomber

    beachcomber

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Physics. Yes, _physics_. That's the trick F1 copied from Concorde. Decent video, but total click bait, irrelevant title...

  34. Joni Meloni

    Joni Meloni

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Holy shit you are intelligent

  35. samsoulee

    samsoulee

    2 kuukautta sitten

    pfffff those are chemtrails obviously 😅

  36. Chris Beitler

    Chris Beitler

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Essentially what I took from this is if I flipped F1 front wings upside down you’d possibly be able to do a back flip

  37. HyperCarArt

    HyperCarArt

    2 kuukautta sitten

    I was always wondering what that air coming out of the wing was

  38. Ian Turner

    Ian Turner

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Great videos with good explanations. I would just add that vortices don’t create drag, they are a manifestation of the pressure difference. Drag is a combination of friction and pressure forces on rearward facing surfaces. Rw gills for example reduce drag by reducing high pressure on the wing upper surface. This means less pressure difference hence s smaller tip vortex is the result not the cause of less drag.

  39. Clayton72 Andrews

    Clayton72 Andrews

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Dirt track sprint cars have the same effect.

  40. Hans-Jürgen Peters

    Hans-Jürgen Peters

    2 kuukautta sitten

    "F1 Engineers - The Last Airbenders" Nickelodeon should make a TV series out of it :D Great Video as always, Scott!

  41. TheJonny2you

    TheJonny2you

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Retitle the video "why f1 is now boring, too much aero/sucking hybrids teat.

  42. Miguel

    Miguel

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Great content but how does low pressure help in condensation? Isn’t that the opposite?

  43. Pangolin

    Pangolin

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Will Renault protest this one too?

  44. channelrafy

    channelrafy

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Clickbait concorde reference

  45. weston malone

    weston malone

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Nothing like take off in a 4 blade c130 in a cold, damp condition. The corkscrew was visible and very cool to watch and make sense to read the performance manual.

  46. Cres Balundo

    Cres Balundo

    2 kuukautta sitten

    The wind coming from the f1's wing makes it look like the car has spider-sense

  47. Matt David

    Matt David

    2 kuukautta sitten

    I've only seen the effect in Tokyo extreme racer zero lol

  48. ameunier41

    ameunier41

    2 kuukautta sitten

    That video was so we'll made, the explanation were simple with a good pace and somehow they managed to go in depth.

  49. Anthony Jonathan

    Anthony Jonathan

    2 kuukautta sitten

    as long as f1 engineer exists, there will be no such thing called 'the last airbender'

  50. FinnTheHuman

    FinnTheHuman

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Well this effect isn't just exclusive to the concord. Literally all jets can do this. Cool to see F1 being able to make this effect too, very interesting stuff.

  51. Henry Hatt

    Henry Hatt

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Also Present in super modified short circle track racing

  52. RD19902010

    RD19902010

    2 kuukautta sitten

    The myth that the different flow speeds does the majority of lifting is a myth that simply doesn't die out. It's mostly pure conservation of momentum: the air that hits the bottom of the wing deflects and pushes the wing up. simple as that.

  53. RayMerrell68

    RayMerrell68

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Plane wings aren't 'sucked' anywhere. Stop saying it.

  54. Doctor Boy

    Doctor Boy

    2 kuukautta sitten

    A very complex and difficult to understand explanation of a simple physical principle.

  55. sahibjyot bhatia

    sahibjyot bhatia

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Please explain blown diffusers also @driver61

  56. Quirino Navarro

    Quirino Navarro

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Congratulations man!! You have the specific way of speaking of the person that understands completely what are talking about... saludos desde México.

  57. Dave077

    Dave077

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Content is fine, title is click bait garbage. Still waiting on what got copied from the Concorde. Did the Concorde engineers develop turning vanes or put slats on the Concorde's wings? You had 3 seconds of Concorde footage and never mentioned it again. Heck, there wasn't anything even taken from aircraft in general, let alone the Concorde. As far as I can tell it's just "both have wings, wings make vortices"... and that's it. Again, the content in and of itself is fine, it just has absolutely nothing to do with the title you gave it. Just title the video "Brilliant F1 aerodynamic tricks" or "How F1 engineers tame vortices" or something like that.

  58. Kirolos Makram

    Kirolos Makram

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Trails in the back of the car like gta

  59. Santi A

    Santi A

    2 kuukautta sitten

    I thought he was going to say CHEMTRAILS

  60. Matt E

    Matt E

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Leeland just loves his vapor trails

  61. Logan Hebda

    Logan Hebda

    2 kuukautta sitten

    3:02 Obscenely over complicated wing

  62. Hennie van Galen

    Hennie van Galen

    2 kuukautta sitten

    Vortex and condensed air or vapour trails are in a sense connected but not the same, like in that drag and downforce are not the same but have an indisputed relation. Aircraft and F1 both have to do with aerodynamics, although in different ways and with different goals.

  63. realblakrawb

    realblakrawb

    2 kuukautta sitten

    5:50 is deployed flap and wing blend issue. 4:06."wing fence?"

  64. ekoturnip

    ekoturnip

    2 kuukautta sitten

    OMG!! F1 cars have Chemtrails!!!11!!

  65. James Wohler

    James Wohler

    3 kuukautta sitten

    This was an awesome explanation. Thanks

  66. Özgür Üstoğlu

    Özgür Üstoğlu

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Great video again, thanks👍

  67. Hishmith V vardhan

    Hishmith V vardhan

    3 kuukautta sitten

    So u like force india cars

  68. William Knight

    William Knight

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Had this on Pilot license test.. Think the correct answer was Ground Effect.

  69. Ely

    Ely

    3 kuukautta sitten

    awesome

  70. Maverick StClare

    Maverick StClare

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Carbon brake discs came from Concorde too

  71. e grande

    e grande

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Thanks so much!!! Great video as always!

  72. BoltonLadnScouser

    BoltonLadnScouser

    3 kuukautta sitten

    dude, your transitions into the ads get smoother and smoother. Bravo.

  73. Jozh

    Jozh

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Now if they can mimic shark skin to wrap the whole car.

    • Pat Riley

      Pat Riley

      Uukausi sitten

      And the flap of a tuna tail to direct flow...nature knows.

  74. Chris Reardon

    Chris Reardon

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Pressure differences create vortices, yes. Pressure differences create very little lift however, it’s enough for paper planes and RC planes to skim across, however a significant majority of lift is created by a phenomenon called flow turning. This was found not too long ago by NASA, and is where a wing changes the direction of air molecules. by throwing air down, or in the case of an f1 car, upwards, you create an equal and opposite force on the car. pressure differences might only be 60-100kpa at high angles of attack and would require a rediculously large surface area to create any force at all. aerodynamics have changed massively in the past few years due to these studies, and is evident in the appearance of simple rear wings on different cars, comparing old Porsche 911 rear wings to new, you can see the transition to flat and fat to more of a crescent moon shape. it’s fascinating that we still don’t fully understand how lift works despite all these theories and studies

  75. AJS000

    AJS000

    3 kuukautta sitten

    As a pilot and Sim Racer I love wings lol

  76. T R

    T R

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Gurney Flap? at least call it right

  77. Dave S.

    Dave S.

    3 kuukautta sitten

    the effect is amazing......ly Ugly

  78. Ulisses Seabra

    Ulisses Seabra

    3 kuukautta sitten

    This was one of the best techinical F1 videos i have ever seen in my life! Awesome explanation !

  79. kayetto

    kayetto

    3 kuukautta sitten

    This... was not copied from Concorde though?

  80. Jimmy Neutron

    Jimmy Neutron

    3 kuukautta sitten

    This channel keeps getting better and better

  81. HotdogAnd aHayride

    HotdogAnd aHayride

    3 kuukautta sitten

    F1 copied Concord? Don't make me laugh. F1 aero is an entirely different league.

  82. frosty A B

    frosty A B

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Vortices off the rear wing are much longer than a meter, but only about a meter is visible due to the weather conditions.

  83. Brandon Kent

    Brandon Kent

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Be careful with how you use the word "turbulence." Technically turbulent flows (higher reynolds number) increases L/D

  84. Darryl B

    Darryl B

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Segway to sponsor was on point this video. Well done sir.

  85. Gaming Palace

    Gaming Palace

    3 kuukautta sitten

    let's admit it, it looks fucking cool.

  86. Leonardo Guayan

    Leonardo Guayan

    3 kuukautta sitten

    We need this content in Spanish please 🥺

  87. Lance Connery

    Lance Connery

    3 kuukautta sitten

    What if they used an electric turbine to depressurize the vortex? It seems like plane engines ought to be at the end of the wing to cancel the pressure.

  88. Horvs Lvpercal

    Horvs Lvpercal

    3 kuukautta sitten

    ah, finally i find something that explain this phenomenon, i have been trying to sort it out for a lot of time

  89. Derrick Lyu

    Derrick Lyu

    3 kuukautta sitten

    In fact, the vortices in F1 do much more than just a barrier. The so-called Y250 vortices drag the air above each of them to the centerline of the car, which will hit the vanes mounted under the front suspension (Front Turning Vanes). Due to the induced inwash and downwash by the Y250s, the FTVs has quite a large angle of incidence to the incoming flow, which would then act like plane wings and create a vortex on their tips, effectively forming a counter-rotating vortex pair with the Y250. The vortex pair pushes down the air between them, forming an optimum flow field for the bargeboard footplates. The 'nose cape', introduced in Spain 2017 by Mercedes, acts in a similar manner, only to be placed a little bit lower than the FTVs. Apart from the concepts above, F1 engineers would utilize vortices to induce some desired flow field close to the surfaces as well. By opening slots on the bargeboard footplates, the Y250 brings some air through them when being directed outboard by the bargeboards, effectively creating a virtual 'side skirt', preventing tyre wake from entering the undertray. Vortices shedding from upper and lower edges of the bargeboard would gradually fall onto both sides of the undertray, pushing air out as well. Aerodynamic designs of F1 cars are true magic that for most of the time can't be deciphered with eyes: even if the concepts mentioned above have become 'common sense' for F1 aerodynamicists, there are still a huge amount of details, such as the strength, exact position and length of vortices, as well as how they change through the entire aero envelope, that would be understood and manipulated very differently among each team. Making a precise simulation of those vortices is, if not, the biggest challenge in understanding the physical aspect of the car. Under this circumstance, one could say that F1 cars look almost the same only because of the regulations: the ideas and interpretations make each of them a whole different world inside.

  90. Supra CODM

    Supra CODM

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Ayo u talkin bout me

  91. S4cell S4cell

    S4cell S4cell

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Where is the concorde connection? Clickbait title and few real content. Sorry this time i dislike the video.

  92. MKUMBRA

    MKUMBRA

    3 kuukautta sitten

    transition to the ad was smoother than the air over the center of the wing

  93. Diogo Jerónimo Pereira

    Diogo Jerónimo Pereira

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Hey, Driver61! I really liked this video, because I’m into F1 and aerodynamics. Also, I’m an aerospace engineer, and during the video, I was hopping you would specifically explain how they induce the inverted vortices to cancel the other ones. Furthermore, I wanted to know if those vortices would reduce the downforce produced by the wings. I was hoping you could share with me those informations or tell me where did you get them, for me to discover a little more. Or even do a more detailed video. I thank you in advance and wish you good luck for the continuity of your great work! I’m a huge fan!

  94. DelphiPascal

    DelphiPascal

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Saying the vortices can be up to a meter long isn’t strictly true. They’re much longer but the but the water re vaporises as the air slowly increases in pressure again when it slows down.

  95. peaceablerook

    peaceablerook

    3 kuukautta sitten

    BuT cHeM TrAiLs

  96. Stian By

    Stian By

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Well let's just say that they use principles from areodynamics. Not the concorde spesifically

  97. Free Range Brain

    Free Range Brain

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Lift is created by downwash not pressure difference

  98. LoneWolf38

    LoneWolf38

    3 kuukautta sitten

    It is actually not just the pressure that causes condensation. Air can only hold as much water at specific temperatures. As we know, accelerated air cools down (otherwise fans would lose their effect.) If you have a high relative humidity, and warm air, it can hold much more water. But when the air cools down, it loses the ability to hold that water. So the water needs somewhere to go and starts condensing and forming those droplets because the air cant hold the water anymore since it cooled down through the rapid acceleration over the wings. That is also why you see the "clouds" in front of the jet engines from planes because the air gets accelerated so fast.

  99. NekunIl

    NekunIl

    3 kuukautta sitten

    This car is awesome as well fitop.info/build/videot/n5_Jp623o9Kql68

  100. NekunIl

    NekunIl

    3 kuukautta sitten

    This car is awesome as well fitop.info/build/videot/n5_Jp623o9Kql68

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