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This single piston costs £50,000. And for good reason. It has to withstand over 200G when moving up and down in the engine at over 80mph.
F1 engines cost over £7 Million each and these pistons are one of the key components that help them produce over 1000hp.
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But why does it cost 1000 times more than the piston out of your road car? It turns out there are many very good reasons for insane costs.
If you’re into F1, then you’ll know that you can’t start an F1 engine like you can with a normal road car.
The incredible tolerances mean that the pistons are seized in the cylinders until the car is warmed up, so the engineers have to take at least 30 minutes to warm the coolant and oil before they can start the engine.
So how come you don't need to do this in your road car?

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  1. Driver61

    Driver61

    3 kuukautta sitten

    Did you know so much goes into these Pistons? Thanks to Fuel for Fans for supporting the channel! Check out the link in the description!

    • WILLIAM LEE

      WILLIAM LEE

      Uukausi sitten

      @james yeah if you're building engines out of a shed that'll last 1 lap and make half the horsepower. If you've been to Brixworth you'll understand why things costs so much.

    • james

      james

      Uukausi sitten

      It could be accomplished alot cheaper.

    • WILLIAM LEE

      WILLIAM LEE

      Uukausi sitten

      The geometry on the crown of these pistons are incredibly complex compared to the simple geometry for road and aftermarket ones. No other turbo petrol engine cars run 18:1 compression ratio so I can understand why they costs so much

    • Antonio Amendola

      Antonio Amendola

      2 kuukautta sitten

      Hi

    • liberty jesus

      liberty jesus

      2 kuukautta sitten

      @Prince Edmund, Duke of Edinburgh poopy butt go vroom vroom

  2. Kevin Karbonik

    Kevin Karbonik

    12 tuntia sitten

    It's that expensive because it's F1.... it's a business unto itself.... everyone gets rich racing cars around....

  3. Britt Gardner

    Britt Gardner

    13 tuntia sitten

    Pretty fascinating stuff. These must all be cam ground on some very expensive equipment. I'd love to know what the development cycle of a part that needs dimensions that tight is even like. The department that selects and engineers the materials must be working very closely with the department that engineers the dimensions. Otherwise, you'd never match the coefficient of expansion to the overall dimensions in such a way as to produce the desired performance.

  4. Ivo Yotov

    Ivo Yotov

    22 tuntia sitten

    I've heard that expression many times and always wondered - If the pistons seize when the block is cold, how do you assemble the engine? Also does that mean that the engine can't be turned at all while cold? Or do you mean that if the engine is started cold the pistons would expand faster than the block, causing them to seize?

  5. kinkywinks

    kinkywinks

    Päivä sitten

    I think the reason they cost so much is because somebody is stupid enough to pay that much.

  6. Jonas A

    Jonas A

    Päivä sitten

    Strange how the word "mil" seems to mean two things. Millimeter and millions of an inch. Mil seems to be big in the inch system since inch is so big that often is talked about a millions of an inch and there for call it mil. Where in the metric countries you never say mil unless you mean a million of an inch for example when dealing with circuit boards. You always say millimeter or micrometer (and maybe thousands of a millimeter) not mil when it is metric.

  7. James Helton

    James Helton

    Päivä sitten

    Well,there goes my F1 garage build. Bummer dude.

  8. Z,O

    Z,O

    Päivä sitten

    1:55 Avgn

  9. Andrew Pick

    Andrew Pick

    2 päivää sitten

    These guys trying to say a piston head is $50,000 should probably not file their own taxes or go grocery shopping.

  10. Klaus Brinck

    Klaus Brinck

    2 päivää sitten

    Rarely heard such BS before... Piston: Is a block of metal that isn´t gold or platinum... still "thousands $ in materials for a piston"...

  11. jaanonkulis55

    jaanonkulis55

    3 päivää sitten

    You are stupid? Subaru imprezA sti stock piston to cilinder 0.03mm f1 0.15mm. wtf weri precise😂😂😂

  12. pino de vogel

    pino de vogel

    3 päivää sitten

    it cost that much because they pay that much for it. nothing more nothing less. They are not that much (50k) more special but if they pay for it.... just like a million dollar car doesn't cost 970k more to make but they pay for it...

  13. P7B Bravo

    P7B Bravo

    4 päivää sitten

    Not 50k for even all the pistons... I'd guess the closest single piston you'd get for 50k would probably be for a ship of some sort.

  14. APURBA DAS

    APURBA DAS

    4 päivää sitten

    good video 👍

  15. 10th Divine

    10th Divine

    5 päivää sitten

    This video makes no sense,get the hell outta here with those numbers lol

  16. Tajemne Jaro

    Tajemne Jaro

    6 päivää sitten

    This lenghty video is just comercial for t-shirts and caps and mugs... Simply BS video !!

  17. path ff

    path ff

    6 päivää sitten

    An f1 piston costs no more then £1000 euros lmao. It's literally a piece of inexpensive metal tooled by machine in about a day(nowhere near thousands of dollars of material like said in this video. A metric tone of aluminum alloy is only like £3000. an f1 piston is about 300 grams)

  18. steven xiao

    steven xiao

    6 päivää sitten

    The main reason is not how accurate they are is any F1 parts it’s not mass manufacture.

  19. Dave Lund

    Dave Lund

    6 päivää sitten

    Still junk

  20. User User

    User User

    6 päivää sitten

    Bruh... there's no way that piston is worth more than... £40,000?

  21. John Papa

    John Papa

    6 päivää sitten

    dude.. sorry to spoil this to you .. but.. its just a normal piston. NORMAL.

  22. Merlin

    Merlin

    7 päivää sitten

    These videos are unreal. So well done.

  23. Tomasz Majczak

    Tomasz Majczak

    7 päivää sitten

    bullshist ...

  24. Ashley Barr

    Ashley Barr

    7 päivää sitten

    I still don’t understand how design, tolerances and material equate to a £50,000 price tag per piston. Ludicrous

  25. oldbloke135

    oldbloke135

    8 päivää sitten

    This doesn't explain why the tee shirts cost 55 euros!

  26. Greg chapman

    Greg chapman

    8 päivää sitten

    Bloody hell that was dull 🙄🙄

  27. Bigbot Hoee

    Bigbot Hoee

    8 päivää sitten

    Still didn't explain why it cost 50k you have just explained how an engine works lol what material it's made from what content silicone aluminum etc

  28. Sophia Bogard

    Sophia Bogard

    8 päivää sitten

    The first piston designed cost $50k because of the R&D tied to it but you can be sure machined billet aluminum pistons even to these tolerances are not even 1/10th of that price.

  29. Gerie Michael Bugas

    Gerie Michael Bugas

    8 päivää sitten

    The perfect example of the saying, the more precise something is, the more expensive it is.

  30. Charlie Angkor

    Charlie Angkor

    9 päivää sitten

    I believe thick and thin material has the same coefficient of expansion.

  31. Simon Schmidt

    Simon Schmidt

    9 päivää sitten

    Bring back V10's

  32. John Philip Tan

    John Philip Tan

    9 päivää sitten

    0.1mm is pretty big tolerance

  33. Lars F1

    Lars F1

    10 päivää sitten

    C’mon... “these engines cost around £7 Million each” *puts £7 Million ($9.4 Million)*... R.I.P. people who use euro’s (me)

  34. Anabel Wentworth

    Anabel Wentworth

    11 päivää sitten

    The sleepy kite cephalometrically travel because transport pathologically milk by a nice white. charming, oafish sofa

  35. Guacamole Hole

    Guacamole Hole

    11 päivää sitten

    Money has no meaning in sports

  36. Ivor Uren

    Ivor Uren

    11 päivää sitten

    60 thou gap? We used to run 3 thou maximum on TZ350 Yamahas and those pistons were only £60 each, me thinks F1 boys are being ripped off big time. :-/

  37. Baldur Vizla

    Baldur Vizla

    12 päivää sitten

    Crap

  38. A. B.

    A. B.

    13 päivää sitten

    £50000 per cylinder in the title and you put 2 sponsor adds just in the first 4 minutes? It's a bit of a clickbate, isn't it?

  39. SAMFICOM

    SAMFICOM

    13 päivää sitten

    that would be enough to feed thousands african children dying from hunger.

  40. Rodrigo Tassara

    Rodrigo Tassara

    13 päivää sitten

    Man held £50000 and his hand didn't tremble

  41. markspc1

    markspc1

    13 päivää sitten

    Ah who cares !

  42. Rollo Martins

    Rollo Martins

    13 päivää sitten

    What is a piston? Something similar to a whip? Something you used in the 19hundreds to move carriages? #driveelectric

  43. Norman Mitchell

    Norman Mitchell

    14 päivää sitten

    You say that the pistons are an interference fit in the cylinders at room temperature. How is the engine assembled with such tolerances?

  44. Henika Chandra

    Henika Chandra

    14 päivää sitten

    Made from 1000 layer damascus steel. 🤣🤣

  45. Dr Broncanuus

    Dr Broncanuus

    14 päivää sitten

    a Bugatti Chiron, makes more 500 bhp than a F1 car and costs 1/3 rd the price of a F1 engine........piston technology is not the secret to constructing a winning F1 car....Ferrari, showed this by cheating with a higher octane fuel.....

  46. nnanaming N

    nnanaming N

    15 päivää sitten

    subtitles please..

  47. Kristian Gameplay

    Kristian Gameplay

    15 päivää sitten

    what???? are they made out of one big diamond stone block, unbelievable, but in my personal opinion it's way too much money for one piston, sorry if I offend who made these pistons, but it's too much money for one peace

  48. Mr Titanium

    Mr Titanium

    15 päivää sitten

    I call BS on these pistons costing as much as you claim. Check your sources as they’re making you looking stupid.

  49. TransMedia Tv

    TransMedia Tv

    15 päivää sitten

    None of that explanation constitutes or justifies the 50K price tag.

  50. Nikos Per

    Nikos Per

    15 päivää sitten

    9 minutes of waste of time

  51. Jeppe Boelsmand

    Jeppe Boelsmand

    15 päivää sitten

    How do they get the piston into the engine the first time?

  52. Brian

    Brian

    15 päivää sitten

    well that was boring

  53. Kyle Rogers

    Kyle Rogers

    16 päivää sitten

    I think it's also worth mentioning that F1 teams use Aluminum for pistons because they are required to. There are superior piston materials available (Beryllium/Copper alloys for instance), but the rules no longer permit this.

  54. ngc 5139

    ngc 5139

    16 päivää sitten

    No it doesn't cost that. I can provide you one for less than a thousand quid - identical to what you are holding - and I'm making a profit at that.

  55. Bjorn Egan

    Bjorn Egan

    16 päivää sitten

    you took about 1 minute of information and stretched it into a 9 minute video... booo

  56. mircea miclos

    mircea miclos

    16 päivää sitten

    Road relevant in F1 is a utopia. How many exotic metal's are use in a F1 engine ?

  57. SlingbladeJim

    SlingbladeJim

    16 päivää sitten

    Now THAT was fascinating..................thank you.

  58. Phillip Atencio

    Phillip Atencio

    17 päivää sitten

    Sneaky ad placement

  59. babalooey100

    babalooey100

    17 päivää sitten

    That's all very impressive. But it's not worth 50K per piston!

  60. doug b

    doug b

    17 päivää sitten

    Well the block has to be heated to put the piston and it’s rings in the thing. Wow

  61. Poppa Koils

    Poppa Koils

    17 päivää sitten

    Nice looking burr on the piston head at 5:56.

  62. finaleoftheseason

    finaleoftheseason

    18 päivää sitten

    Do you ever get tired talking like that?

  63. behemothinferno

    behemothinferno

    18 päivää sitten

    I think you overlooked the most important factor that makes F1 pistons so expensive. It's the fact that they are not made in the billions but thousands!

  64. John Martlew

    John Martlew

    18 päivää sitten

    Me: I want to go really fast, really efficiently. What’s it going to cost? Engineer : Ohhhh yes!

  65. Jonki Pastramki

    Jonki Pastramki

    18 päivää sitten

    The pushy yogurt compatibly pour because olive contextually applaud besides a fancy part. insidious, tender tense stinger

  66. krvnjrcbs

    krvnjrcbs

    18 päivää sitten

    What's an almulinium?

    • illusion nl

      illusion nl

      17 päivää sitten

      LOL

  67. 6Hundred6ixty6ix

    6Hundred6ixty6ix

    18 päivää sitten

    Okay so why do they cost $50,000 you're explaining how a piston works. I will bet you $50,000 that a piston doesn't cost $50,000.

  68. V12BigBlock

    V12BigBlock

    19 päivää sitten

    That thing could be made out of gold and it wouldn't justify the 50k price tag, something seriously wrong here, check your numbers again, you might have pulled something out of your bottom hole

  69. Daniele Vetrucci

    Daniele Vetrucci

    19 päivää sitten

    5:43 Force is 588 N = 60kg not 600kg

  70. getplaning

    getplaning

    20 päivää sitten

    Same reason a pro racing bicycle is $50,000. They are made one at a time.

  71. Felipe Behrens

    Felipe Behrens

    20 päivää sitten

    Darn... that’s complicated. Just use an electric race car...

  72. Zack Herr

    Zack Herr

    20 päivää sitten

    0.15mm is 6 thou not 60 thou :)

  73. Minorto Terona

    Minorto Terona

    20 päivää sitten

    soo. if F1 engine stays cold for long enough, its pistons and piston block might end cold welded huh

  74. JohnJaggerJack

    JohnJaggerJack

    21 päivä sitten

    What the difference between a H6 and H5 hole tolerance? H6 is fancy words for a H5 with surface finish.

  75. A M

    A M

    21 päivä sitten

    Great video

  76. Acg blah

    Acg blah

    21 päivä sitten

    The cost comes from ineptitude and failure of imagination.

  77. Tsam Racing

    Tsam Racing

    21 päivä sitten

    suzuki fx 125 original piston cost 100k euros...F1 its a toy

  78. Tom Tom

    Tom Tom

    22 päivää sitten

    I think they saw you coming

  79. Ian Mangham

    Ian Mangham

    22 päivää sitten

    Never been worth 50k , total rip off

  80. Elondra Emberheart

    Elondra Emberheart

    22 päivää sitten

    Do they have to heat up the parts to assemble and disassemble the engines too? That sounds pretty challenging

  81. Fadzil Hafizi

    Fadzil Hafizi

    22 päivää sitten

    Some people pointed about the over-inflated price inaccuracy. Is it for clickbait purposes?

  82. Jim Bartz

    Jim Bartz

    22 päivää sitten

    thumbs down for the ads

  83. Артём Пулинец

    Артём Пулинец

    22 päivää sitten

    And here comes tesla roadster

  84. Jesse Folk

    Jesse Folk

    22 päivää sitten

    People would be confused if they knew what material they use now on pistons in f1 👀

  85. crusherbmx

    crusherbmx

    23 päivää sitten

    If you've ever seen that video about Cosworth and the Beatrice/ Haas team building a turbo engine using fully old school methods like using a wooden pattern for the block, it's amazing how much technology is used these days. The fancy machines were around in the 80's, but out of reach to most F1 teams.....and weirdly, the new Haas F1 team, completely unrelated to the 80's team, is owned by a company that makes these machines.

  86. crusherbmx

    crusherbmx

    23 päivää sitten

    Seems weird to have to warm an engine before you start it.....but then again, I live in a cold place and we usually put heaters on our road car engines overnight so they will start in the morning.....and I didn't do that last night....wish me luck, it's -32c right now.

  87. Ricardo Fahlbusch

    Ricardo Fahlbusch

    23 päivää sitten

    At 3:04 your value of 39.09 mm does not fit that tolerance. I believe you actually meant 39.99 mm. Elsewise your gap between biggest and smallest would be almost 1 mm (0.92). Keep goin'!

  88. Blame USA

    Blame USA

    23 päivää sitten

    yes but this is all BS money making! Just use larger cheaper engines..... more power less cost..... Just a money grab like everything!

  89. Rafael Lastra com

    Rafael Lastra com

    24 päivää sitten

    50,000 quid for one piston? Can´t be right mate.

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  91. fuckingpippaman

    fuckingpippaman

    24 päivää sitten

    So you didn't explain why they cost so much eh.... lol. I would say they cost 50000 pounds but they are not actually worth so much. Come on modern measuring machines by default have a resolution of 1um, then if they really have a precision of that magnitude is another topic. And ffs my 2 stroke original street scooter ha tolerances on the diameter of +-2,5 um on his pistons...... it was produced 20 years ago and a piston sells for 80 bucks so really....... come on. X-ray i bet my asshole they x-ray also production pistons. In batches surely, hell they could implement automatic radioscopy on every single piston produced if they wanted for little extra cost. They don't because its not needed the quality is already high. You missed on penetrant testing though probably. I may say from my ignorance that F1 pistons cost so much because there is a bunch of assholes measuring 100 pistons and throwing away 98 of them. Doing x-ray by hand, penetrant testing on each one of them etc. I would guess they don't cost so much point 1; point 2 they are pretty much the same as a production piston material and machining wise; point 3 they might cost 50000£ (that i don't actually believe cause its a ripoff) beacuse they are custom made in small batches, high reject rate, and singular hand made NDT on them. But they're aren't surely WORTH 50,000£ they're just normal pistons, just a little better selected.

  92. James Simester

    James Simester

    24 päivää sitten

    I can assure you what you are seeing is not an F1 piston...

  93. peterjohnsracing

    peterjohnsracing

    25 päivää sitten

    complete load of bollocks really, f1 pistons are priceless because you can't buy them! Our pistons are made by Cosworth and they retail @ £265

  94. wololo10

    wololo10

    25 päivää sitten

    R&D

  95. Nick Purdy

    Nick Purdy

    25 päivää sitten

    Driver61......I have no particular idea why this has become an issue for me, but I ask of you to please, please speak with a flow to your sentencing. Your descriptions on each of your videos are certainly more than adequate but although your wording is grammatically fine, there is too much stress placed upon the divisions of clusters of words in a sentence, rather than deliberately breathing more freely and allowing a natural glide to take its place. I’m well aware that my specific comments probably have no place in your post but I would feel far more naturally drawn to your descriptive analysis of your subject matter and less consciously blindsided by your delivery if you might consider a marginally altered approach. All of this aside, many thanks for so much of the information which you continue to share, that of which I know little about.

  96. Robbie Tucker

    Robbie Tucker

    25 päivää sitten

    Very awesome video

  97. Malik Zulqarnain

    Malik Zulqarnain

    25 päivää sitten

    But metal contracts when cold and hence creates a lot of gap in between than why f1 engines seizes when cold, I still don't understand it?

  98. FastIndy

    FastIndy

    26 päivää sitten

    I almost bought a coat without even knowing it

  99. Steve G.

    Steve G.

    26 päivää sitten

    truth be told the main reason is simply that the cost of development and production is amortised over a greater volume of production in road car applications

  100. Sean Patterson

    Sean Patterson

    28 päivää sitten

    The clearances (not tolerances) mentioned are nothing special. Most motorcycles run similar clearances, and a competent mechanic can resize cylinders with a hone and an electric drill. My guess is that most of the cost of the piston is to recover the money spent in development, and in the development of parts that never got sold.

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