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Why These Brakes Cost £50'000 : F1 Brakes Explained

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These F1 Brakes cost over £50’000 per corner hit over 1000 degree Celcius and slow an F1 car at over 6G - which means 200mph - 40mph in just 4 seconds!
So, why do they cost 100X more than these Brakes from a regular road car? And why do they only last 250 miles?
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Before we break down the exotic materials and why these F1 brakes cost so much, we need to understand the insane forces involved and the extreme power these things have.
For a long time in F1 the limiting factor for braking was the grip available from the tyres - so the brakes were pretty similar to those from a road car. For example, in the 60s they were using steel discs - not too different from these road car brakes.
However, tyres are now so advanced and F1 cars produce so much downforce - and therefore grip - that the brakes are subjected to monumental loads and temperatures.
The braking phase is also absolutely crucial to lap time, so if you can brake later than your competitors - you will have a big advantage. And so teams spend around half a million pounds per year on the best quality discs and pads.
All meaning that F1 cars can produce over 6G when braking - to put this more clearly, the F1 car produces three times the braking force of a McLaren Senna when stopping from 200mph.

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  1. Driver61


    16 päivää sitten

    Isn't this engineering incredible? It was awesome to be able to show you just how incredible these things are! You really should join us for the chat with @Tommo at 8PM GMT tonight, and @Jaaames tomorrow at 7PM GMT! to join us!

    • Len Mcbeth

      Len Mcbeth

      2 päivää sitten

      @Bobby Huxley cool! Took like 15 mins but it worked!!

    • Bobby Huxley

      Bobby Huxley

      2 päivää sitten

      I dont know if anyone gives a shit but yesterday I hacked my girlfriends Instagram password using Instaportal. Cant link here so search for it on google xD

    • Observing Rogue

      Observing Rogue

      13 päivää sitten

      This makes me think about an AWD electric vehicle, Regen Braking all wheels. Even in a race setting, would Regen allow the use of normal brake rotors & pads?

    • isaacroc


      14 päivää sitten

      I was hoping to see some footage of the manufacturing of C/C f1 disks, the videos we see are from SiC brake discs...or is the only difference that silicium isn’t added at the end by infiltration ?

    • A-6M ZERO

      A-6M ZERO

      15 päivää sitten


  2. An idiot in a racing car

    An idiot in a racing car

    3 tuntia sitten

    Why don't they make the brake calipers in carbon as well?

  3. jerrymk


    Päivä sitten

    Just use a sawstop

  4. Tall Drink

    Tall Drink

    Päivä sitten

    faster the car, the better the brakes are. Hopefully!

  5. James Helton

    James Helton

    Päivä sitten

    I want a set on my tacoma .

  6. Millina G

    Millina G

    4 päivää sitten

    380% is not equal to 6 times...

  7. Mike DeVito

    Mike DeVito

    4 päivää sitten

    they are made of a composite called carbon carbon

  8. Ilgar Majidov

    Ilgar Majidov

    5 päivää sitten

    money value - that`s the problem.

  9. Uchuujin tamanegi

    Uchuujin tamanegi

    5 päivää sitten

    8:53 first time hearing that carbon bodies are put into HEAT oven instead of PRESSURE one. strange

  10. DriveJapan


    5 päivää sitten

    Why does anything is F1 cost so much. Because you cant embezzle as much money if its cheap. LoL

  11. aKa Donut

    aKa Donut

    6 päivää sitten

    So it's to expensive and poluting to make any sense ? F1 is so boring too.. you watch some guys press a pedal and turn a circle left and right .

  12. Colin Gantiglew

    Colin Gantiglew

    7 päivää sitten

    Interesting and usefully informative. Your clear explanations were not fogged by either high-falootin' bullshit or patronising simplicity. Well done!

  13. Danny Wieland

    Danny Wieland

    7 päivää sitten

    more reason to finally stop F1 shit

  14. Yoshida Saki

    Yoshida Saki

    8 päivää sitten

    More expensive than my house goddamn 😂

  15. 윤성민


    8 päivää sitten

    Like George Russel said in WTF1, Those brakes are ridiculous

  16. Leonardo Barreto

    Leonardo Barreto

    8 päivää sitten

    That 1998 Benetton is the Real MVP of our F1 knowledge here. hehehe

  17. Who is John Galt?

    Who is John Galt?

    9 päivää sitten

    you can get these temps faster by having less surface area. the force per square inch would go up, resulting in more friction per square inch heating while also heating less material faster.

  18. Chris Braid

    Chris Braid

    9 päivää sitten

    So what about the regen braking ? Would it help to have supercapacitor battery banks to absorb the energy and fire the car out of the corner you just braked into ?P.S. I don’t like the way that brakes waste energy and slow us down. We need to relearn driving with minimal braking as it gives our vehicles better balance ....

  19. William Su

    William Su

    9 päivää sitten

    What is carbon carbon? Are they just a pure carbon material, or are we talking about like a refractory ceramic carbide?

  20. Pwnzistor


    9 päivää sitten

    Fun fact: The material used in F1 brakes (Carbon-Carbon) is the same thing that was on the Space Shuttle's nosecone.

  21. Shadowboost


    9 päivää sitten

    I've been to the shop that machines those holes. Very cool shop, made some really amazing shit, including some of my parts

  22. Alex Manning

    Alex Manning

    9 päivää sitten

    I really enjoy this content! Thanks so much for delivering high quality video as well as well as super fascinating content!!!

  23. Junior Johnson

    Junior Johnson

    9 päivää sitten

    Most of the F1 teams use a compound from Hitco, the same as used by most of the DPI teams. The Indy teams have tested those same compounds and are trying to change the rules to allow them ( they currently have to use the brakes from another manufacturer).

  24. AHands


    10 päivää sitten

    Wait - You show in your video they are £5,000 ($6,900) per corner. Honest mistake or deliberate clickbait in adding another zero?

  25. n 135246

    n 135246

    10 päivää sitten

    instant 2' : less than 4 times the energy, not more than 6 times, according to your calculations

  26. James Drissel

    James Drissel

    10 päivää sitten

    I have been thinking about what could be done with a cold gas thruster mounted on the unsprung part of the suspension. When needed, the thruster fires, applying several thousand extra pounds of contact pressure for each tire. Imagine how well a mini Cooper would stop on a slippery wet road if there was an extra 2000 lb of contact pressure on each tire... That might be enough to stop quicker than you could with the normal brakes on dry pavement. and yeah it'd be kind of a pain in the rear cuz he'd have to recharge the system and maybe replace some cosmetic panels that got blown off by the rocket thrust. But I think anybody who's been in a wreck would rather deal with that then deal with the usual result of having enough enough space to stop from 25 miles an hour (because of the wet) but you're going 45 mph.

  27. Panagiotis Demelis

    Panagiotis Demelis

    10 päivää sitten

    What Great videos you Guys do! Keep up with this Great work. What is also good about your videos, to my opinion is that one can see, that the impression that F1 technology is gradually transferred to every day Cars is quite misleading and many times irrelevant.

  28. Milos Balunovic

    Milos Balunovic

    11 päivää sitten

    mentioning more braking force, and number of "pistons" .... you are aware that only hydraulic pressure area is what is important (and on one side also regarding the "clamping force" )

  29. Fuel


    11 päivää sitten

    Awesome content! Really inspired by Driver61 a lot. Starting up our very own youtube channel about automotive and anything regarding cars/wheels! Can show some love towards our channel? Give some comments for us to improve! :D

  30. Peter Mainwaring

    Peter Mainwaring

    11 päivää sitten

    I was only ever a club, tin top racer, and the first time I used carbon metallic pads, on the Silverstone GP circuit, I flat spotted a tyre because they worked the other way around from the racing pads I was used to. Less pedal as the pads got up to temperature, not more! Lesson learned and a new tyre that only lasted one corner. Expensive when your sponsor is yourself. 🙄

  31. Kitty


    11 päivää sitten

    0:19 are they 50k or 5k? make up your mind

  32. Markus Patients

    Markus Patients

    11 päivää sitten

    If I were a racecar driver I would never use the breaks. Better yet, have them taken off to save weight...

  33. Laugh Sandwich

    Laugh Sandwich

    11 päivää sitten

    Great video but just asking is there then a very special biskpoke f1 brake fluid used as well that’s even more expensive than what’s used in GT 3 race cars let’s say

  34. busybee


    11 päivää sitten

    only reason...theyv e.... F1 in the name any joker can get the same for half that price

  35. Chris H.

    Chris H.

    12 päivää sitten

    Why they don't use magnetic brakes without friction??

  36. Nicholas Cartlidge

    Nicholas Cartlidge

    12 päivää sitten

    Love the channel. Why aren't f1 wheels made of carbon fibre?

  37. Juttla Family

    Juttla Family

    12 päivää sitten

    How do 1 make carbon -carbon.

  38. Haden Vardaro

    Haden Vardaro

    12 päivää sitten

    Could you do a video on the body panels of race cars and how they get repaired or taken off during races?

  39. usernamwdrama


    12 päivää sitten

    Awesome stuff.

  40. Meton12765


    12 päivää sitten

    Also, that using your own body-weight and momentum to aid in braking. That's a thing for Saab-drivers. Whether you want to or not. You definitively need to replace seatbelt pre-tensioners every 5 years or so. as they do get activated quite a bit. :D :D :D But, then again, plebians gonna pleb.

  41. Meton12765


    12 päivää sitten

    Yeah, and yet again, wrong. Road cars with high performance braking systems. also use grooved / drilled vented discs to allow somewhere for the gas to flow and not to create a gas layer between the pad and the disc. This is effin' brake engineering 101 from the 1980's for heavens sake. Road cars _have_ come along quite a bit in the past 30 years. Mostly thanks to F1 and Group B and later WRC pushing the damn envelope. :D The advances in motor racing most often, translates to actual real-world advances in road cars. THAT'S WHY THE CAR COMPANIES DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! Such as, the Carbon Ceramic Composites they use to coat Porsche discs with. The material is nano engineered carbon lattice over a vented disc. And it doesn't wear more than 0.1mm over it's entire use life of around 50 000km. Same tech is being applied to F1 and airplane brakes, as this approach mitigates the cooking off of brake fluid and dissipation of break pad material phenomena as they are effective at far lower operating temperatures and don't, you know, plume off like a old school carbotanium cooked in a steel kiln for a moth. :D

  42. Meton12765


    12 päivää sitten

    Yeah, no. Shitty road cars only have one piston. :D Saab (in it's 20 year old, Old Gen 900 form) had twin piston vented discs with ABS. In 1991. And in the OG9-3 and NG900 they have four at the front in Aero and High pressure turbo spec. Esp the Viggen has this taken to full-tilt stop-on-a-dime from 250km/h. :D And maintained this level of stopping power up until the demise of the marque. Volvo wouldn't settle for anything less, and I do believe they're S90 T8-R has quad-piston vented in the front. And twin piston vented at the rear... Something I often need to remind myself of when driving. Since, cars around me, DO NOT stop in less than 50m from 80km/h roadway speeds if I really stomp on them, in good summer weather, naturally. And I don't drive with anything but fresh rubber, that is, 2 year old tires ain't good enough anymore. :D Also, the process used to make those carbon brakes, isn't just "very similar" to airplane carbon brakes. It's literally the _same_ process. In fact, that brake caliper you handled at one point of the video that you allude to being F1 part. Well, it also has aeronautical part classification. Because, standardization, motherfuckers for the win! :P

  43. Wind of change

    Wind of change

    12 päivää sitten

    Easy, I can tell you this without watching the video. Simple design, high tech and expensive carbon ceramics.

  44. magpierh


    12 päivää sitten

    The numbers in the voiceover don't tally with the figures on-screen; you say 750MJ while the image shows 734, then say the F1 car experiences over 6x the force, while the image says 384% (so almost 4x)

  45. Bigbot Hoee

    Bigbot Hoee

    12 päivää sitten

    Doesn't cost 50k if your paying that you getting rapppped

  46. dubtube


    12 päivää sitten

    Whatever it is it has to be expensive because it's F1, it's part of the show

  47. Carl Harverson

    Carl Harverson

    12 päivää sitten

    Ah carbon, that rarest of rare elements



    12 päivää sitten

    I thought the thumbnail was a watch

  49. minty


    12 päivää sitten

    Weird how it's the opposite in cycling. Carbon brake tracks are worse of a braking surface because they're way worse at dissipating heat than aluminium

  50. nasos nasos

    nasos nasos

    13 päivää sitten


  51. Whisky Canuck

    Whisky Canuck

    13 päivää sitten

    Another part that I'd be curious about is the history & function of the modern F1 car floor.

  52. elvewizzy


    13 päivää sitten

    Ferrari engineers: Write that down! Write that down!

  53. Pip Pipster

    Pip Pipster

    13 päivää sitten

    0:20 But I thought you said £50,000 ... Here it says £5000?

  54. Ryan O'Keefe

    Ryan O'Keefe

    13 päivää sitten

    I have rewatched the moment at 5:22 about 10 times... It gets funnier every time.

  55. Tri Handoko

    Tri Handoko

    13 päivää sitten

    Do yo know what? The airplane brake is more advance and more expensive than this

  56. Audiojack


    13 päivää sitten

    "This caliper has six pistons where a road car system only has one." Most certainly still do, but if your vehicle is heavy-duty or performance oriented, it's not uncommon to see 2-pot or 4-pot calipers, and some do sport 6-pots and even 8-pots too, on some relatively tame supercars like the Audi R8.

  57. rkan2


    13 päivää sitten

    5:50 - -20c only? :D I think most car brakes will work way past the point of your engine oils or fuel..

  58. Observing Rogue

    Observing Rogue

    13 päivää sitten

    ...So F1 disks, are like expensive alcohol or cheese, or meat? The cost is from the extra time, care, and quality-over-quantity business model.

  59. David Baker

    David Baker

    13 päivää sitten

    Can u (or anyone else!) explain how the hell a front wing can possibly cost over £200k? (According to Christian Horner!)

  60. ngc 5139

    ngc 5139

    13 päivää sitten

    Stop exaggerating.

  61. aleksandar tokin

    aleksandar tokin

    13 päivää sitten

    Fun fact, pure carbon has a higher melting point than tungsten carbide

  62. Crooks


    13 päivää sitten


  63. Robert


    13 päivää sitten

    Try converting the brake energy into the horsepower equivilant if you really want to blow some minds.

  64. Mean Cat

    Mean Cat

    13 päivää sitten

    I wish one day he gets to assemble a F1

  65. Giles Bonner

    Giles Bonner

    13 päivää sitten

    @3:06 how is "carbon carbon" a composite? wouldn't it mean they're just made of carbon? vs carbon ceramic for example?

  66. Claude Baron

    Claude Baron

    13 päivää sitten

    Just for any rides out there that are streets legal, theirs tones of products available form cheap to very expensive, just for my sport bike it’s street legal and already most sport bikes are already very well equipped of everything but if I want to change the calipers ‘’ just the calipers, no pads, no hoses, no master cylinder, for 2 calipers of the brand Brembo ( witch are in the best ones if not the best ) no the top quality but a very good one the prices for 2 calipers Brembo are around $ 2,000 , so imagine for a F1 😂😂😂😂😂 But ever heard the expression ‘’ to stop on a dime ‘’ !? With this it’s almost true, I’ve tried one bike on time who was all set-up for racing , not as a factory one but still, and I’m used to rides motorcycles, 35 years experience, did racing, stunts, you’ll name it !, and the first time I used the front brakes on this bike,( and I was been carful ) I almost fly over the handlebars, as it stopped so brutally guess it takes times to use to.

  67. Mansour


    13 päivää sitten

    These brakes are ancient lol

  68. SS454LS6


    13 päivää sitten

    I was able to hold an F1 brake disc at the 2012 Canadian GP and I was blown away at how light it was.

  69. Vincent Menke

    Vincent Menke

    13 päivää sitten

    That matierial was used also on the space shuttles nose and wing covers

  70. Crispy K

    Crispy K

    13 päivää sitten

    Still doesn't explain the 50000£ price... I doubt that there's more than 15000£ worth of materials. But people will pay 50000£ and the "manufacturers" use "research" as an excuse for the high price. But you don't redo the research when you produce a disc. You just make a lot of discs based on the research that's you've already found, and most likely already made the money back so now it's just profit. But i might be wrong ;)

  71. Roosevelt Brentwood

    Roosevelt Brentwood

    13 päivää sitten

    oh oh I know this one! it’s because f1 cars go really fast and have to stop quickly!

  72. arekdbz3


    14 päivää sitten

    It is good that you highlight "world fastest GAMER". Let it be clear. Cause there are dozens of better simracers in iRacing if not in hundreds

  73. Hubert Behrendt

    Hubert Behrendt

    14 päivää sitten

    Cast iron* not steel

  74. Jeff Vlimant

    Jeff Vlimant

    14 päivää sitten

    I remember an episode of Top Gear where Jeremy Clarckson tried an F1 car. What you tell in his video is pretty much the explication of what happened for him and why he was so inconfortable in it. Your videos are SO good man !!

  75. That Guy

    That Guy

    14 päivää sitten

    Subscribed. I find the engineering of these cars fascinating.

  76. Rafael Teixeira

    Rafael Teixeira

    14 päivää sitten

    F1 numbers always surprises us

  77. Data Recovery Sweden

    Data Recovery Sweden

    14 päivää sitten

    Great content, thank you.

  78. Bartłomiej


    14 päivää sitten

    02:02 380% read as "over 6 time energy"...

  79. The Real Alfalfa Male

    The Real Alfalfa Male

    14 päivää sitten

    How can a disk be over £50K per corner when a disk is round?

  80. Tony Perri

    Tony Perri

    14 päivää sitten

    carbon-carbon is what the thermal tiles on the space shuttle were made of

  81. Benjamin Whedon

    Benjamin Whedon

    14 päivää sitten

    This series of videos is so God damned good man. Thanks a ton for the amazing content.

  82. Niko942


    14 päivää sitten

    Unfortunately doesn't support PC's at all, only phones. They don't even allow us to download the past podcasts. Is there any chance the podcasts could be uploaded somewhere where PC users could get access to them?

  83. Anonymous Person

    Anonymous Person

    14 päivää sitten

    Think of thousands of these piling up in landfill.

  84. zOlid


    14 päivää sitten

    @Driver61 The math in this video make no sens at ALL! Title says it cost 50'000£, but the video text says 5000£ per disc. Also you say that they only last 250miles. A normal F1 race is around 190 miles, so counting practice and qualy they drive more than 250 miles in a weekend. Later you say it costs teams 500.000£ per year for disc/pads. But if discs where 50.000£ each, that would only be 10 discs per year and thats asuming they get the pads for free... (since you provided no info of pad cost) None of this math adds up what so ever!

    • David G

      David G

      12 päivää sitten

      Hmmm, your right. Seems odd! @driver61 can you explain?

  85. Yash P

    Yash P

    14 päivää sitten

    Probably I need this one for my cycle

  86. Mario Blanco Gonzalez

    Mario Blanco Gonzalez

    14 päivää sitten

    2:00 the maths for the kinetic energy of the F1 are incorrect. Actually, the kinetic energy difference is 1/2*[mass]*[[Initial speed]**2 - [final speed]**2], instead of what's shown in the video 1/2*[mass]*[[Initial speed]-[final speed]]**2. But the overall message is well understood

  87. Digital_Jedi


    14 päivää sitten

    6g of stopping force. That's 6g in the forward direction. A human head weighs about 11lbs or 5kg. The driver's head is being pushed forward with 66lbs or 30kg of force. They could likely lift a small child with their neck muscles.

  88. SubZero


    14 päivää sitten

    Would carbon carbon breaks get up to temperature in hotter climates? I've experienced breaking fading too many times to not consider this as an option or at least something similar

  89. Gseric47


    14 päivää sitten

    When I start prepping my track car for hotlapping in the future, I'm looking at $900-$1,200 for racing brakes. I couldn't even imagine spending 50,000 pounds just for some brakes. 🤦🏾‍♂️

  90. Brap Brap

    Brap Brap

    14 päivää sitten

    5:42 is that a pad from an MX5 on the right?

  91. Nisten T

    Nisten T

    14 päivää sitten

    Hey can you make a video about the air system of the pilot in racing cars. I I know fighter pilots have to store their liquid oxygen, is it the same for F1 drivers? How is it protected? Can the can explode? When in history was this first introduce? Do they breathe pure oxygen or a mix or nitrogen? I have no idea if there's enough to this for a whole episode but rather than going in a rabithole of research myself I much preffer the way you compress technical knowledge in these videos :) Cheers

  92. EqualsThreeable


    14 päivää sitten

    Is this a reupload, I remember watching this video a while back?

  93. Luca Gattoni-Celli

    Luca Gattoni-Celli

    14 päivää sitten

    Another fabulous video, thank you

  94. Cktime ThirtyTwo

    Cktime ThirtyTwo

    14 päivää sitten

    “Why they would be useless if you applied them to a road car” As thousands of Mercedes, McClarin, Lamborghini and Ferrari owners run around the town on ceramic brake packages 😂

    • Steven Kelby

      Steven Kelby

      13 päivää sitten

      That's a spurious argument.

    • Driver61


      14 päivää sitten

      Carbon Carbon and Carbon Ceramic are pretty different

  95. Big J small j

    Big J small j

    14 päivää sitten

    Good insight thank you. It all comes down to economies of scale really, doesn't it. If they were to be made in millions then the production would be cheaper, not as cheap as the steel discs but a lot cheaper than what they are. But of course since there is no such demand they will never be made in millions, hence always 100 X expensive

  96. CED99


    14 päivää sitten

    2:00 2832/734 =/= 7x Also kJ as BTP point out not MJ - so out by a factor of 1000 there 0.5*746kg*(87m/s)^2 = 2823237 J 50,000/50 = 1000 not 100 as well Enjoyable video though :thumbsup:

  97. Harry Nelson

    Harry Nelson

    14 päivää sitten

    These are not bad, got some on my ford KA

  98. James Sharpe

    James Sharpe

    14 päivää sitten

    The forge new limits sign is great, bit your head in front of it makes it read "forge limits"

    • Steven Kelby

      Steven Kelby

      13 päivää sitten

      I still don't understand why carbon brakes are so expensive, but I do want to buy some Forge Mits for some reason.

  99. Mike Creed

    Mike Creed

    14 päivää sitten

    Dyslexia, it's a thing.

  100. Friday Californiaa

    Friday Californiaa

    14 päivää sitten

    Those brakes are *THICC*